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Location: Arima, Trinidad & Tobago

I love Carnival!!. Trinidad's carnival! Once a year my senses rejoice at the opportunity to douse my soul with intoxicating soca music, shed my cares and fears, and temporarily transfer my spirit into the mas. (S. Drakes)

Friday, November 24, 2006

Wine for Mammy

What are your views on the picture above? If it is one thing I hate to see is a child dancing in a vulgar manner. Alot of children just jump to the soca music on carnival day, but then we have the ones that dance in a manner which reminds me of bedroom activity. At this age I does feel shame to brook out in front meh and some ah dem doing worst dan me.

One of my friends had this cousin who I met as a child, for her birthday party she was all on the floor crawling like a cat, jiggling her little butt and the like. The immediate family was making a big joke out of it and praising her saying “ Sachelle could real wine’’.. or “ Sachelle do the thing where yuh does stick yuh waistline”. I told myself (I was not trying to be pessimist) I just knew that if she continued down that path she would end up in a couple negative situations. Now many years later at age 17 she had her first child for a boy age 17 as well. Young children like to do the things they see their parents doing. Through imitation, children learn many things. Parents know from experience that children will copy what their parents do and say. As a parent, you can help your children develop healthy habits by setting a good example.


Blogger Icahwait* said...

it never looks right and how come the parents always praising them? its one of those viscious cycles the parents like that, so the children are likewise, then the children's childrens end up in the same boat yada yada.
You know you don't need a crystal ball to figure how they going to be later on in life.

8:53 AM  
Blogger Crankyputz said...

I find it a smidge scary when i see little girls doing the split and goign for it. I agree too much freedom and imitation of adult activites eventually catches up to a kid. Kids should be forced to stay kids for as long as possible. Love your blog btw....

9:03 AM  
Blogger Sexelise said...

my friend had a party for her daughter.. she turned 7.. It was called a red carper affair... those Little women/kids were doing the dutty wine all over the place.. doing splits going up on the heads... All I was saying " I hope they know their school books like that" God knows why I dont have kids yet...

9:10 AM  
Blogger kevian said...

crankyputs thanks, it really upsets me to see parents praising them, but I guess that is what they put an emphasis on in life.
" gyal she could wine". It is vicious cycle because their parents parents may have had the same values in true.

9:29 AM  
Blogger saucydiva said...

I don't like seeing little girls doing the "dutty wine" or any kind of vulgar wine either, I am both embarassed and disgusted at the parents for not putting a top to it and feel sorry for the kids who do not know any better.

9:37 AM  
Blogger Karabana said...

The 1st time I went to kiddies carnival here it was still on Eglinton Av., & I was shocked by the adult wining some girls were putting down. But for the really little ones, they don't know what it means, they are just imitating their mothers, who taught them! So mom is not ashamed, she's proud, sadly.
The sexualization of girls at younger & younger ages is far too disturbing.

Teen girls, phew, they are another matter, this one at kiddies that year looked like a teen prostitute in her bikini top, low tight shorts zipper wide open, thong showing.

10:00 AM  
Blogger kevian said...

i agree with u karabana alot of them don't realise or know the meaning of what they are doing. Alot of older people don't even see the vulgar nature of their own dancing, so how can they save the children from that kinda thing.

Even though they don't know what they are doing, it develops into an overal attitude in the end...a "big" woman attitude if Imight say so myself.

10:08 AM  
Blogger Karabana said...

I too know a family friend who had her kids when she was in her teens, & was sickened to hear her blasting the worse kind of gantsta rap w her oldest son (under 8 yrs old) right there listening. Plus she was showing him the most vulgar dance moves. So yeah, I could see his unfortunate fate.

Since wining is part of the Trini culture, parents want their kids to learn it, but I imagine they debate in their head it's disadvantages - bc besides being perceived as just a social dance move, it's also sexual.

10:31 AM  
Blogger kevian said...

OMG daz a great point kara, where exactly do we draw the line with our children, between teaching them the trini culture and teaching them dances of a sexual nature.

10:41 AM  
Blogger Karabana said...

yeah, bc you realize if you teach your kid to wine, fine, but eventually, their body will learn to naturally move more provocatively, & next thing you know, their wining can very easily turn into a sexual overture.

11:01 AM  
Blogger kevian said...

I mean really we can't stop them from learning to wine, because they willl earn it in school. I remember that I learnt to wine in primary school, but i never did it in front my mum. So how exactly do we get them to stay away from the lude wining.

11:19 AM  
Blogger Hottie Hottie said...

This is all true. Wining is such an intrinsic part of our culture - it transcends class, race or age. I dodn't even remember when I learnt to wine,, in my mind, I always knew how to. My goddaughter when she was a baby now learning to walk would pull herself up and bounce and shake whenever she heard music. Noone taught her. I think it's a line that can easily be blurred in the sense that what might be okay for us may be vulgar for another. I had a woman on another blog (Mani's Sampson Nanton post) blast me for playing mas and saying that the carnival costume I had on in my previous photo was vulgar. However, she seemed to have no problem with the photos of the two girls in sexually embrarrassing poses being emailed all over the internet. But I think she was a kyat anyway. That being said, I hateto see people showing their children how to wine and be sexually explicit. I also hate to see people - shamefully, mostly women - taking part in children's carnival and being vulgar.

2:08 AM  
Blogger Carnival Jumbie said...

hottie you serious!!!omg!! That woman want me ride for she or wha? I miss that one!!

11:47 AM  
Anonymous Petra said...

This is a really an interesting topic. Why shouldnt the children learn to dance nudly when its shown to them all over television. All in the name of carnival adults take the streets parading in almost nothing and behaving in all sorts of vulgar behaviours and its considered cool. Why then should we tell our children do as i say but dont do as i do. Kev the only way a child will stop wining vulgarly as you say it.. is when the adult shows the proper example. I have no problem with children learning to wine.. but there is a thin line when it comes to vulgarity. I witnessed at a pageant show intermission a lil chilren 'bout 8yrs on her knews bussing wine... people were cheering her of course.. she didnt learn that on her own.. some element influenced her. In conclusion, being able to wine is almost second nature to us.. the important thing though is teaching our children to respect themselves... it might be heard adults but if you want them to learn the right things.. then you SHOW THEM...

11:47 AM  
Blogger ttfootball said...

Great topic Kevian
Personally I think a big factor here is the praising and the cheering on. Like you all have pointed out, children will learn from other sources than their parents, but when the parents condone and PRAISE the behaviour then the child has no sense of what is appropriate, and just gets more out of hand from there.

1:15 PM  
Blogger Karabana said...

Hey K? What up, you ok?

2:12 PM  
Blogger buublenut said...

I feel you can do it girl!!!

I reach back safe - sorry we couldn't meet up, too funny you thought I was staying till Carnival, I wish!!!

Talk to you soon and we will for sure see each other at Carnival time!!!

8:48 AM  
Blogger buublenut said...

Girl where have you gone???

6:36 AM  
Anonymous sweettrini said...

But Kevian, how we ent seeing yuh at all?? Yuh alright?? No new posts, no comments. Ah hope all is well and is partying and "paranging" (if dais ah word)that have yuh so!!

6:29 PM  
Blogger saucydiva said...

Yes Kevian, where are you chick?

10:41 AM  
Blogger Karabana said...

I'm missin you long time gyrl :(... esp since I'm yakking away on my blog practically alone & it's lonely without you ;)

10:20 AM  
Blogger caisoqueen said...


Where are you??? Are you ok?? I hope you not beatin up de Cultural Minister yuh know. But seriously, you are soooo missed. Holla back and leh we know yuh aright!


1:14 AM  

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